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Boring Radical Centrism's avatar

>But as a quick aside, “incel” is a funny moniker for a group whose core belief is that sex carries a moral taint and it would be better if no one did it. Monastic orders of men preaching total abstinence have been around for centuries, but I don’t think Tibetan bhikkhus call their celibacy “involuntary”.

>In the incel tweets, we see the difference between resentment and mere envy. These guys don’t talk about wishing they had had a promiscuous phase. They don’t even argue that a man should be able to sleep around in his 40s if he marries a former “hedonist”, to balance the fucking ledger. Their desire is to deprive the woman, whether of her past enjoyment or of a future relationship.

Incels don't think sex has a moral taint, they think women having sex has a moral taint. They'd love to be having tons of sex partners themselves. They talk about "chads", those men who do have sex with a lot of women. They feel jealous of chads, but they don't hate chads like they do women. There's no fantasizing of murdering chads to make the world more fair, because they want to be a chad.

That is of course blatantly hypocritical, that a woman who has sex with many men is an evil degenerate, but that a man who has sex with many women is just fulfilling his natural purpose. Incels aren't smart people and they just don't think about how innately hypocritical their ideology is.

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Sympathetic Opposition has a couple novel takes on these ideas here that I'd be surprised if you hadn't seen already:

how and why to be ladylike (for women with autism) (https://www.sympatheticopposition.com/p/how-and-why-to-be-ladylike-for-women) has some what-were-extremely-novel-to-me insights on misogyny-as-wrenching-back-attention (that I comment much more on here: https://scpantera.substack.com/p/on-being-attracted)

and she had another banger on casual misandry as the sort of gender-inverted flip side of that called "misandry as cope" but she seems to have taken it down at some point

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